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Parents pay for their kids' truancy
PARENTS will today receive £50 fines after six children were caught skipping school.
Police Community Support Officer Amanda Luker and an officer from Swindon Council's education department visited parts of West Swindon yesterday and found five children out of school.
Every month PCSOs join forces with council officers to run truant sweeps and check playgrounds and parks all over Swindon.
This week they visited the Link Centre in West Swindon and in the library there they found five children who should have been at Headlands School.
The youngsters were taken to the West Swindon police point where they were issued with forms to take home, telling their parents that they would receive a £50 fine for each child caught out of school.
They also went to the home of another child who had not gone to school. When the officers got to the house he refused to get out of bed, so they issued another £50 fine.
"These kind of days are about sending out messages to parents and pupils," said PCSO Luker, of the West Swindon north neighbourhood policing team.
"We need to show these people that this is the kind of action that we can take to stop truancy."
Nigel Pickering, social inclusion manager for children services at Swindon Council, said: "It is to reinforce the message that it is a legal requirement for children to attend school and to ensure that the young achieve their potential.
"Parents sometimes don't realise that that when kids are out of school they can be vulnerable.
"We have a team that goes into local areas and town centres and speaks to young people to find out why they aren't in school.
"There is also the possibility of a family being issued with a penalty notice and we can take action against them if the children aren't sent to school."
3:28pm Thursday 27th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Grumpy, Swindon on 3:37pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Good, I'm glad the parents are to be fined, but I have the feeling that the fines will either not be paid and nothing will be done or if the fines are paid then it will be out of the benefits the parents are no doubt receiving.
Only six children caught - a drop in the ocean.
Good, I'm glad the parents are to be fined, but I have the feeling that the fines will either not be paid and nothing will be done or if the fines are paid then it will be out of the benefits the parents are no doubt receiving.
Only six children caught - a drop in the ocean.
Posted by: emmylou83, Stratton on 3:38pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote]This week they visited the Link Centre in West Swindon and in the library there they found five children who should have been at Headlands School.[/quote]
Ok if I bunked off school I wouldn't of gone to a library!!!
This week they visited the Link Centre in West Swindon and in the library there they found five children who should have been at Headlands School.
Ok if I bunked off school I wouldn't of gone to a library!!!
Posted by: AllyT, Swindon on 3:41pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Neither would I have Emmylou. I found much more interesting places to hide !!
On a more serious note though, I am glad these kids are getting caught and their parents told. More for the kids safety apart from anything else.
Neither would I have Emmylou. I found much more interesting places to hide !!
On a more serious note though, I am glad these kids are getting caught and their parents told. More for the kids safety apart from anything else.
Posted by: Voice of Reason, The Parks on 4:03pm Thu 27 Mar 08
The problem is that half the time the parents are not aware.My son used to get the bus to school with me in the morning I saw him go in, he would have his name taken for the register then walk out again so why is the parent getting fined. It pi55es me off cos the school's dont give a to55 and watch them leave, you can get you kid to school but who is gonna make sure they stay...?
The problem is that half the time the parents are not aware.My son used to get the bus to school with me in the morning I saw him go in, he would have his name taken for the register then walk out again so why is the parent getting fined. It pi55es me off cos the school's dont give a to55 and watch them leave, you can get you kid to school but who is gonna make sure they stay...?
Posted by: Robin Harris, Swindon on 4:49pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Schools have no powers to stop kids walking out of school. They cannot physically stop them because the parents will or the child will sue for assault.
It is about time that parents realised it is their responsibility to ensure their child goes to school and stays there. So many seem to think that it is a child minding facility for them to go to work or do other things.
Of course it all bounces back on the government who want to encourage parents, especially single parents to go out to work. Then they claim kids don't have family values!!!
Schools have no powers to stop kids walking out of school. They cannot physically stop them because the parents will or the child will sue for assault.
It is about time that parents realised it is their responsibility to ensure their child goes to school and stays there. So many seem to think that it is a child minding facility for them to go to work or do other things.
Of course it all bounces back on the government who want to encourage parents, especially single parents to go out to work. Then they claim kids don't have family values!!!
Posted by: WTF?, Swindon on 7:00pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Does anyone actually believe these 'fines' will ever be paid?
Of course they won't.
This whole exercise is a total waste of time and, more importantly, our money.
Most of these kids will be from benefit families or low income families who will just whinge that they can't afford it and will be let off.
Why are we even expected to believe this nonsense anymore?
Does anyone actually believe these 'fines' will ever be paid?
Of course they won't.
This whole exercise is a total waste of time and, more importantly, our money.
Most of these kids will be from benefit families or low income families who will just whinge that they can't afford it and will be let off.
Why are we even expected to believe this nonsense anymore?
Posted by: sparkey on 7:22pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote]quote[/quote] They also went to the home of another child who had not gone to school. When the officers got to the house he refused to get out of bed, so they issued another £50 fine.
[italic]italic[/italic] so you even get fined for being at home in bed? maybe this one was actually ill!
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They also went to the home of another child who had not gone to school. When the officers got to the house he refused to get out of bed, so they issued another £50 fine.
so you even get fined for being at home in bed? maybe this one was actually ill!
Posted by: Mumstheword, Walcot on 9:48pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote]quote[/quote]
Most of these kids will be from benefit families or low income families who will just whinge that they can't afford it and will be let off.
I object to that generalisation WTF. As a parent who has been on low income and benefits, ensuring my children do better and do not end up in the same situation is really important to me. Education is the key, it is a way out of social deprivation and poverty. Woe betide any of mine who skive or don't try 100% at school!
quote
Most of these kids will be from benefit families or low income families who will just whinge that they can't afford it and will be let off.
I object to that generalisation WTF. As a parent who has been on low income and benefits, ensuring my children do better and do not end up in the same situation is really important to me. Education is the key, it is a way out of social deprivation and poverty. Woe betide any of mine who skive or don't try 100% at school!
Posted by: john c, swindon on 10:59pm Thu 27 Mar 08
First let me say that I am glad that police and truant officers are working together to tackle the problem of children not attending school.
However it would appear from this article that parents are being fined £50 for the first offence of their child even when they may not have been aware that the child was not in school.
These set fines as all set fines hit poorer households harder that rich ones. What effect would a £50 find have on the parents if dad was a premiership footballer or mum was a top barrister, all fines should be a percentage of the annual household income then they would have the same effect on all.
First let me say that I am glad that police and truant officers are working together to tackle the problem of children not attending school.
However it would appear from this article that parents are being fined £50 for the first offence of their child even when they may not have been aware that the child was not in school.
These set fines as all set fines hit poorer households harder that rich ones. What effect would a £50 find have on the parents if dad was a premiership footballer or mum was a top barrister, all fines should be a percentage of the annual household income then they would have the same effect on all.
Posted by: Cjones1234, Swindon, Peatmoor on 9:03am Fri 28 Mar 08
i agree Mumstheword people are steriotyping and i dont think is fair in all it is the minority who represent this band its just the majority of what you get told about.
same goes with the hoodie situation minority not majority.....!!
yes they shouldnt be skiving school but i dont agree they should be automatically branded from low income benifit familys.
i agree Mumstheword people are steriotyping and i dont think is fair in all it is the minority who represent this band its just the majority of what you get told about.
same goes with the hoodie situation minority not majority.....!!
yes they shouldnt be skiving school but i dont agree they should be automatically branded from low income benifit familys.
Posted by: PJACE1, Chard on 10:37am Fri 28 Mar 08
indeed voice of reason the school cannot keep them under lock and key (tho very tempting) if the parents get the pupil into class its then the schools responsabilty to keep them there for the day
indeed voice of reason the school cannot keep them under lock and key (tho very tempting) if the parents get the pupil into class its then the schools responsabilty to keep them there for the day
Posted by: emmylou83, Stratton on 10:43am Fri 28 Mar 08
But pupils know that there is sod all the teachers can do to stop them so they just walk out bold as brass
But pupils know that there is sod all the teachers can do to stop them so they just walk out bold as brass
Posted by: Papillon, Swindon on 11:08am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]emmylou83[/bold] wrote:
[quote]This week they visited the Link Centre in West Swindon and in the library there they found five children who should have been at Headlands School.[/quote] Ok if I bunked off school I wouldn't of gone to a library!!! [/quote] They were probably using the internet facilities to post comments on the adver website!
emmylou83 wrote:
This week they visited the Link Centre in West Swindon and in the library there they found five children who should have been at Headlands School.
Ok if I bunked off school I wouldn't of gone to a library!!!
They were probably using the internet facilities to post comments on the adver website!
Posted by: Big Mac on 11:13am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Mumstheword wrote:[/bold]
I object to that generalisation WTF. As a parent who has been on low income and benefits, ensuring my children do better and do not end up in the same situation is really important to me.
[/quote]
That's very admirable but some benefits families often have as many as three or four school age children.
Are you seriously suggesting that, should two of their kids play truant and get caught, that they would [italic]actually[/italic] pay a £100 fine?
I can't see it myself.
Mumstheword wrote:
I object to that generalisation WTF. As a parent who has been on low income and benefits, ensuring my children do better and do not end up in the same situation is really important to me.
That's very admirable but some benefits families often have as many as three or four school age children.
Are you seriously suggesting that, should two of their kids play truant and get caught, that they would
actually pay a £100 fine?
I can't see it myself.
Posted by: sashstaff, Swindon on 11:16am Fri 28 Mar 08
Actually I think parents should be fined, each and every time the kids bunk off. This way they will at least take the issue seriously. Too many parents dismiss this kind of behaviour as 'teen attituse' of whatever, they won't be so dismissive when they have to pay for it. Maybe it will give them the motivation they need to tackle their kids' behaviour, and problems, if necessary.
However, I do think the same applies to schools, they should have to take more responsibility for keeping the kids in school, it's unrealistic to expect parents to be watching their children 24/7.
Actually I think parents should be fined, each and every time the kids bunk off. This way they will at least take the issue seriously. Too many parents dismiss this kind of behaviour as 'teen attituse' of whatever, they won't be so dismissive when they have to pay for it. Maybe it will give them the motivation they need to tackle their kids' behaviour, and problems, if necessary.
However, I do think the same applies to schools, they should have to take more responsibility for keeping the kids in school, it's unrealistic to expect parents to be watching their children 24/7.
Posted by: emmylou83, Stratton on 11:20am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Papillon[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]emmylou83[/bold] wrote: [quote]This week they visited the Link Centre in West Swindon and in the library there they found five children who should have been at Headlands School.[/quote] Ok if I bunked off school I wouldn't of gone to a library!!! [/quote] They were probably using the internet facilities to post comments on the adver website![/quote] Surely the adver website is just for us who want to waste some time while at work?
Papillon wrote:
emmylou83 wrote: This week they visited the Link Centre in West Swindon and in the library there they found five children who should have been at Headlands School.
Ok if I bunked off school I wouldn't of gone to a library!!!
They were probably using the internet facilities to post comments on the adver website!
Surely the adver website is just for us who want to waste some time while at work?
Posted by: Robin Harris, Swindon on 11:37am Fri 28 Mar 08
Agreed emmylou83. It was very quiet on here last Friday and Monday. None of the regular time wasters.
Agreed emmylou83. It was very quiet on here last Friday and Monday. None of the regular time wasters.
Posted by: emmylou83, Stratton on 11:47am Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Robin Harris[/bold] wrote:
Agreed emmylou83. It was very quiet on here last Friday and Monday. None of the regular time wasters.[/quote] Hardly call majority of us time wasters as we do actually comment on the stories as we should.
And yes schools and parents need to work together to keep children in school but the problem is kids aren't scared of adults anymore we are not a threat to them
Robin Harris wrote:
Agreed emmylou83. It was very quiet on here last Friday and Monday. None of the regular time wasters.
Hardly call majority of us time wasters as we do actually comment on the stories as we should.
And yes schools and parents need to work together to keep children in school but the problem is kids aren't scared of adults anymore we are not a threat to them
Posted by: Voice of Reason, The Parks on 11:50am Fri 28 Mar 08
Up pops Robin Harris again with such a sparkling revelation of a comment.
Up pops Robin Harris again with such a sparkling revelation of a comment.
Posted by: Voice of Reason, The Parks on 11:59am Fri 28 Mar 08
Spot on Emz they know they can walk out when they want.With my son I spoke to the schooll and to be honest they were really good if he walked out they called me straight away. This meant I could either get him on his mobile and tell him to get back or on occasion I have gone and found him and dragged him back, that worked.
Spot on Emz they know they can walk out when they want.With my son I spoke to the schooll and to be honest they were really good if he walked out they called me straight away. This meant I could either get him on his mobile and tell him to get back or on occasion I have gone and found him and dragged him back, that worked.
Posted by: Robin Harris, Swindon on 12:22pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Roll on 5.00pm. The kids and others will not be able to use someone elses computer.
As I commented earlier. Schools cannot physically stop any kids from leaving the site. I've even seen police bring kids back to school and as they left those kids walked straight out behind them.
If we could have a society with a government commited more to family values than pure tax payers things might improve.
Roll on 5.00pm. The kids and others will not be able to use someone elses computer.
As I commented earlier. Schools cannot physically stop any kids from leaving the site. I've even seen police bring kids back to school and as they left those kids walked straight out behind them.
If we could have a society with a government commited more to family values than pure tax payers things might improve.
Posted by: emmylou83, Stratton on 12:25pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Umm Robin isn't that what I just said???
Thing is VoR some parents just aren't that bothered about their children it's a sad factr but unfortunately it does happen and in some cases the schools can't be bothered to keep track on all the pupils and so long as the child is there for registration it looks good for the schools in terms of absent figures
Umm Robin isn't that what I just said???
Thing is VoR some parents just aren't that bothered about their children it's a sad factr but unfortunately it does happen and in some cases the schools can't be bothered to keep track on all the pupils and so long as the child is there for registration it looks good for the schools in terms of absent figures
Posted by: Robin Harris, Swindon on 12:25pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Unfortunately VoR you are the exception not the rule and I commend you for it.
Unfortunately VoR you are the exception not the rule and I commend you for it.
Posted by: Robin Harris, Swindon on 12:27pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Sorry emmylou83 I seem to be echoing your points. It physically takes me some time to type so I miss the latest comments.
Sorry emmylou83 I seem to be echoing your points. It physically takes me some time to type so I miss the latest comments.
Posted by: Voice of Reason, The Parks on 1:57pm Fri 28 Mar 08
The main problem is the kids no the rules better than the teachers in our day we did not get away with anything. We had respect for teachers but also we were a bit afraid of them as they had the power but now thanks to do gooder's etc they laugh at teachers police etc. We need to come down hard on the kids but also the parents who dont give a to55
The main problem is the kids no the rules better than the teachers in our day we did not get away with anything. We had respect for teachers but also we were a bit afraid of them as they had the power but now thanks to do gooder's etc they laugh at teachers police etc. We need to come down hard on the kids but also the parents who dont give a to55
Posted by: Papillon, Swindon on 2:03pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]john c[/bold] wrote:
First let me say that I am glad that police and truant officers are working together to tackle the problem of children not attending school. However it would appear from this article that parents are being fined £50 for the first offence of their child even when they may not have been aware that the child was not in school. These set fines as all set fines hit poorer households harder that rich ones. What effect would a £50 find have on the parents if dad was a premiership footballer or mum was a top barrister, all fines should be a percentage of the annual household income then they would have the same effect on all. [/quote] Disagree about the fines john c. Why should someone be fined more for an offence because they worked hard, stayed on at school and uni to get a better paid job.
Already the workers can be seen as paying for the slackers (apologies to those who are genuinely ill or trying to find work - I know there are some)
However I do agree that the government are wrong to place all of the responsibility on the parent, whilst doing it's best to remove any possibility of legally disciplining their offspring.
john c wrote:
First let me say that I am glad that police and truant officers are working together to tackle the problem of children not attending school. However it would appear from this article that parents are being fined £50 for the first offence of their child even when they may not have been aware that the child was not in school. These set fines as all set fines hit poorer households harder that rich ones. What effect would a £50 find have on the parents if dad was a premiership footballer or mum was a top barrister, all fines should be a percentage of the annual household income then they would have the same effect on all.
Disagree about the fines john c. Why should someone be fined more for an offence because they worked hard, stayed on at school and uni to get a better paid job.
Already the workers can be seen as paying for the slackers (apologies to those who are genuinely ill or trying to find work - I know there are some)
However I do agree that the government are wrong to place all of the responsibility on the parent, whilst doing it's best to remove any possibility of legally disciplining their offspring.
Posted by: Papillon, Swindon on 2:06pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Voice of Reason[/bold] wrote:
The main problem is the kids no the rules better than the teachers in our day we did not get away with anything. We had respect for teachers but also we were a bit afraid of them as they had the power but now thanks to do gooder's etc they laugh at teachers police etc. We need to come down hard on the kids but also the parents who dont give a to55[/quote] Spot on VOR
The kids just don't seem to respect anything
Voice of Reason wrote:
The main problem is the kids no the rules better than the teachers in our day we did not get away with anything. We had respect for teachers but also we were a bit afraid of them as they had the power but now thanks to do gooder's etc they laugh at teachers police etc. We need to come down hard on the kids but also the parents who dont give a to55
Spot on VOR
The kids just don't seem to respect anything
Posted by: Dosomethingmutley, Hanger 14 Swindon on 2:23pm Fri 28 Mar 08
When I was around 14 years old, back in the seventies, I went through a couple of months where I hated the idea of school. It wasn't that I couldn't get up, I worked from 5.30 am doing paper rounds and a couple of shop jobs after work and weekends.
My mum thought I was at school, but I found many places to hide.
When a chap from the local education authority came to enquire why my mum had not sent me to school, she was understanably upset, it was not her fault but mine.
The chap sat me down and explained that if I didn't start going to school again regularly, then it would be my mum, not me who suffered, firstly by way of a fine and ultimately via a court appearance
Talk about a reality check, I was back at school the next day and never had another day off for any reason until I left school 3 years later.
It was about respect for my mum and not wanting her to get into trouble for my mistake. Unfortunately a lot of kids have no respect for their parents or themselves and really don't care if their parents are prosecuted.
None of us are perfect, I certainly wasn't, but I always have respected my parents.
The lack of respect and being able to see reason is sadly lacking in some kids today, it's a society where people think they are owed something, without any input.
Sad but the reality of today.
When I was around 14 years old, back in the seventies, I went through a couple of months where I hated the idea of school. It wasn't that I couldn't get up, I worked from 5.30 am doing paper rounds and a couple of shop jobs after work and weekends.
My mum thought I was at school, but I found many places to hide.
When a chap from the local education authority came to enquire why my mum had not sent me to school, she was understanably upset, it was not her fault but mine.
The chap sat me down and explained that if I didn't start going to school again regularly, then it would be my mum, not me who suffered, firstly by way of a fine and ultimately via a court appearance
Talk about a reality check, I was back at school the next day and never had another day off for any reason until I left school 3 years later.
It was about respect for my mum and not wanting her to get into trouble for my mistake. Unfortunately a lot of kids have no respect for their parents or themselves and really don't care if their parents are prosecuted.
None of us are perfect, I certainly wasn't, but I always have respected my parents.
The lack of respect and being able to see reason is sadly lacking in some kids today, it's a society where people think they are owed something, without any input.
Sad but the reality of today.
Posted by: Dick-Turpin, Swindon on 2:32pm Fri 28 Mar 08
Bring back discipline in schools - like it or loath it, it worked and can still work if properly regulated.
Not sure whether you can call it respect for the teachers or fear of a visit to the headmaster and then having to face punishment again when you get home but it certainly had an impact on overall behaviour and attitude.
Bring back discipline in schools - like it or loath it, it worked and can still work if properly regulated.
Not sure whether you can call it respect for the teachers or fear of a visit to the headmaster and then having to face punishment again when you get home but it certainly had an impact on overall behaviour and attitude.
Posted by: emmylou83, Stratton on 2:36pm Fri 28 Mar 08
You'd be surprised at how young children are when the respect stops some children as young as 5 come into schools with no respect for any adult because the parent has let them get away with blue murder
You'd be surprised at how young children are when the respect stops some children as young as 5 come into schools with no respect for any adult because the parent has let them get away with blue murder
Posted by: Voice of Reason, The Parks on 2:41pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I was thae same at school but mine was down to the fact I did not wnat to go, me and my brother were raised by just my mum who also held down a ful time job. So she would go to work and I would skive simple that was until I got caught I was sent to my deputy head and got cained simple as that I tell you what my ar5e was so sore I did not do it again.I am not saying we should beat the kids though thats not such a bad idea, but kids no longer see consequences for their actions. We did wrong we got punished now kids do wrong they get a 2 week vacation in Snowdonia to help build there self esteem what a load of Bowlocks
I was thae same at school but mine was down to the fact I did not wnat to go, me and my brother were raised by just my mum who also held down a ful time job. So she would go to work and I would skive simple that was until I got caught I was sent to my deputy head and got cained simple as that I tell you what my ar5e was so sore I did not do it again.I am not saying we should beat the kids though thats not such a bad idea, but kids no longer see consequences for their actions. We did wrong we got punished now kids do wrong they get a 2 week vacation in Snowdonia to help build there self esteem what a load of Bowlocks
Posted by: Papillon, Swindon on 2:42pm Fri 28 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Dick-Turpin[/bold] wrote:
Bring back discipline in schools - like it or loath it, it worked and can still work if properly regulated. Not sure whether you can call it respect for the teachers or fear of a visit to the headmaster and then having to face punishment again when you get home but it certainly had an impact on overall behaviour and attitude.[/quote] I remember when I was at school the liberadicals had a survey in which they asked the schoolkids what they thought of corporal punishment, and if it had any effect.
Of course we all lied and said that it didn't work.
I guess they never heard of Brer Rabbit and the Briar Patch!
Dick-Turpin wrote:
Bring back discipline in schools - like it or loath it, it worked and can still work if properly regulated. Not sure whether you can call it respect for the teachers or fear of a visit to the headmaster and then having to face punishment again when you get home but it certainly had an impact on overall behaviour and attitude.
I remember when I was at school the liberadicals had a survey in which they asked the schoolkids what they thought of corporal punishment, and if it had any effect.
Of course we all lied and said that it didn't work.
I guess they never heard of Brer Rabbit and the Briar Patch!
Posted by: steve pratt, swindon on 4:41pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I agree with dosomethingmuttley , however these days any attempt to explain anything like this results in a reply from a disrespectful ,spitting , snarling yob who is bent on getting their own way and thanks to the do gooders led by ester ranzen the back of ones hand which was used years ago to quell this type of rebellion has no been outlawed . A spell in a detention centre should cure trauncy
I agree with dosomethingmuttley , however these days any attempt to explain anything like this results in a reply from a disrespectful ,spitting , snarling yob who is bent on getting their own way and thanks to the do gooders led by ester ranzen the back of ones hand which was used years ago to quell this type of rebellion has no been outlawed . A spell in a detention centre should cure trauncy
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 6:58pm Fri 28 Mar 08
I think there is a lot to be said for corporal punishment. The sheer 'threat' that it existed and would be used kept 99.99% of kids in 'check'. I think the expression 'spare the rod and spoil the child' is not without foundation in fact and reality.
I think there is a lot to be said for corporal punishment. The sheer 'threat' that it existed and would be used kept 99.99% of kids in 'check'. I think the expression 'spare the rod and spoil the child' is not without foundation in fact and reality.
Posted by: Outsider, Swindon on 10:35pm Mon 31 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Dick-Turpin[/bold] wrote:
Bring back discipline in schools - like it or loath it, it worked and can still work if properly regulated. Not sure whether you can call it respect for the teachers or fear of a visit to the headmaster and then having to face punishment again when you get home but it certainly had an impact on overall behaviour and attitude.[/quote] Would also help if discipline could be found within the home/family first!
Fines are not the answer.
emmylou - sadly it does not surprise me, my
own 4yr old often tells me that they are
not friends with the children who can not behave in their class and will never forget the day he told another parent how to parent a child who was very badly behaved towards him and others,talk about role reversal!
Dick-Turpin wrote:
Bring back discipline in schools - like it or loath it, it worked and can still work if properly regulated. Not sure whether you can call it respect for the teachers or fear of a visit to the headmaster and then having to face punishment again when you get home but it certainly had an impact on overall behaviour and attitude.
Would also help if discipline could be found within the home/family first!
Fines are not the answer.
emmylou - sadly it does not surprise me, my
own 4yr old often tells me that they are
not friends with the children who can not behave in their class and will never forget the day he told another parent how to parent a child who was very badly behaved towards him and others,talk about role reversal!
Posted by: Groucho, Hampshire on 3:19pm Tue 1 Apr 08
Just to put the record straight - school is NOT compulsory. Have a look at the Education Otherwise website. There are [bold]MANY[/bold] children who are just not suited to school. If there is a better way for them to learn, this should be followed. Their parents should be made aware of the options open to them. I know my wife will vouch for the fact that her parents were never helped by the LEA. It seems that nothing has changed, and members of your local LEA are giving out duff information to parents. I will not go into what we have had to endure here in Hampshire.Just remember, school is not compulsory, schools are not natural - they are man-made, and you learn ALL your life.
Just to put the record straight - school is NOT compulsory. Have a look at the Education Otherwise website. There are
MANY children who are just not suited to school. If there is a better way for them to learn, this should be followed. Their parents should be made aware of the options open to them. I know my wife will vouch for the fact that her parents were never helped by the LEA. It seems that nothing has changed, and members of your local LEA are giving out duff information to parents. I will not go into what we have had to endure here in Hampshire.Just remember, school is not compulsory, schools are not natural - they are man-made, and you learn ALL your life.
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At the bottom of all articles, you'll see links to six sites. These sites - commonly called 'social bookmark' or 'social news' sites - have large communities of web users who share and rate interesting, useful and fun things on the web.
Clicking the links will automatically add the address of the story you are reading to one of these sites, letting you share it with others. Each site will ask you to register to share stories. Registration is free and once a member, you can store, recommend and search for stories that interest you.
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